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Old 10-21-2007, 12:06 AM   #11
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Where can I see the top 5 of game schools? I don't care whether the schools are inside or outside of the US.

Cool thing that you have already made 2 games. I will start learning before going there, so I'll have an advantage, I guess.

The only thing that makes me hesitate is the price. When I made this topic I thought I would get all the money back, and now my dad told me something totally different. How would I be going to get 69.000 dollars ? I'm not rich!
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:05 AM   #12
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I will stress this, just because you go to the 'best' school(s) like Full Sail doesn't automatically grant you a 'free pass' to a job. That comes very largely down to you. You can easily go to the worst school and still get a job in the industry.

I say this because some companies have had bad experiences with the graduates from trade schools that have applied to them that they blacklisted them for a while.

This gets frequently discussed in the GameDev and IDGA forums with both sides heavily opposed to each other.

http://www.google.com/custom?sa=Goog...8859%2D1&hl=en

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Old 10-21-2007, 06:27 AM   #13
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I got student loans. If you talk to the admissions people they will tell you how to get student loans.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:41 AM   #14
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Could you tell me more about student loans?

How much is it?

how do you get it?

Can I have a payment benefit next to the student loan, or is that impossible? Because I am "special", I get some money every month. I have got autism, that's why.

Additional info would be good too!

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:49 AM   #15
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Well student loans are different for everyone. So I can't really tell you how to get them. If you call up the school they can help. I used Salle Mae. And just filed for a loan by calling them. I think mine is somewhere around $80,000 to include living expenses and tuition. But I would suggest you call the school or look on their website.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:09 AM   #16
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Why do you want to learn abroad? Surely there are Computer Science degrees at the Universities in Holland. I honestly don't see the advantage of spending thousands of euros to study at a trade school abroad which doesn't guarantee you a job regardless.

Find a decent Computer Science degree in your country and work on some projects on the side to help build your portfolio. After you have finished, start applying to companies in your area or start looking to specialise and do a Masters.

I will stress this: Game Trade Schools like Full Sail or Digipen don't give you an advantage over a decent Computer Science degree in the eyes of most employers. In some cases it is even frowned upon for various reasons.
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Why do you want to learn abroad? Surely there are Computer Science degrees at the Universities in Holland. I honestly don't see the advantage of spending thousands of euros to study at a trade school abroad which doesn't guarantee you a job regardless.

Find a decent Computer Science degree in your country and work on some projects on the side to help build your portfolio. After you have finished, start applying to companies in your area or start looking to specialise and do a Masters.

I will stress this: Game Trade Schools like Full Sail or Digipen don't give you an advantage over a decent Computer Science degree in the eyes of most employers. In some cases it is even frowned upon for various reasons.
Gonna have to agree with this man. I didn't realize you were outside of the USA sorry. Though I would say that it helps you get ready for the industry.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:54 AM   #18
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Thanks for your replys!

I do agree with this, my family, nor my girlfriend, will like me going to another country. I was just thinking I would get better training when going to the USA, but many people seem to think the educations in Holland are just as good as the ones in the USA.

Don't you guys think it would be better to follow an education which offers a real game program training rather than following a computer science education?

What do you actually learn at a computer science training? I have been wondering this for quite a while and would like to know it.

I hope anybody can answer me.

Thanks!

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Old 10-22-2007, 03:11 AM   #19
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Thanks for your replys!

I think you guys are right, I haven't thought about that. I don't think my family, nor my girlfriend, will like me going to another country. I didn't realize Holland had such good Game Design educations, but everyone keeps saying that the educations in Holland are great, and that they are just as good as the ones in the USA. I was wanting to go to the USA because I thought I would get better training, but when hearing this I think there's no need going to the USA for me.

Wouldn't it be better to do an education specialized on Game Design? Everyone is talking about computer science, and I don't really understand what it is. They all say computer science is just as good as an education in Game Design, but I don't really understand that!

What is Computer Science exactly? I have read about it, but I still don't know it exactly. What does a Computer Science education offer you? Like programming, assembling, etc. (I'm just giving some examples, this doesn't mean this is in it!)

Could anyone list some schools which offer Computer Science in or near the Netherlands? I would really like to know, but it seems difficult to find any.

I hope anyone can answer these questions for me.

Thanks!

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Old 10-22-2007, 03:35 AM   #20
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Q. What is Computer Science exactly?
A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science This is usually fundamental for any programmer, games or not.

Q. Wouldn't it be better to do an education specialized on Game Design?
A. No. You do that and you severely your career possibilities. If you do a Games related course and after two years you change your mind for whatever reason, switching careers to a non-games programming one is difficult because you don't have the underlying education that you would get from a Computer Science degree. However, to transition from a Computer Science degree to a Games Programmer career is much, MUCH easier.

Talk to your Careers adviser at College. He or she will give much more relevant information about your country's education system. Please bear in mind that the list I linked to are games companies, not education.

Edit: Have a read of this article as well: http://scientificninja.com/advice/on-game-schools

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